Is there a method that you use to obtain a brown tone finish instead of the orange one I am getting. The SW recommendation is not bad for a wood that isn’t prone to blotch. Hey Marc, sorry about that. Hi Denise. Stain Gallery. First, after having three coats (the third curing as I type) of the stain currently on, is there any way to remove them or simply cover them, the scratches? Windsor Oak, Minwax® Water Based WoodSheen® Natural wood tones vary, so expect your final stain color to vary slightly from board to board. Does anyone have experience using a dye stain rather than a pigment stain on maple? Pickled Oak 260, Minwax® Wood Finish™ So with your basecoat of color already on the wood, the Java should finish things off nicely. And no, they don’t dissolve with water contact. I have worked all summer and ut to now on my entertainment center and I do not want to screw it up at the end. For those of you who don’t know, maple is a tricky wood to stain. Also I would like your opinion. As soon as it is dry. That levels the playing field, so to speak, and makes sure I have no issues with color of top-coat adhesion. We like the simple plain color and aren’t looking for another color just a clear satiny or matte finish that protects them. Gray stained kitchen cabinets are the mediators of kitchen design styles. American Chestnut, Minwax® PolyShades® then apply polyurethane for the final coat <—– also confuse which polyurethane should I use. For starters, I like the range of colors and wood tones that are available. From there, I’d have to analyze the results. I really have no idea what the issue is from your description. The color will be expresso (dark brown). If you like the look of dark floors, then I say go for the darker color. I wish that I had read your web site a couple of weeks ago. Check out our product comparison tool! :) Did you try to contact General Finishes to see if they have any Canadian Vendors? Sangria, Minwax® Water Based Wood Stain I’m still a novice and while I took some care to check from piece to piece that the grain wasn’t drastically different, there are panels that start out dark and more figured and by the other end of the panel it’s cleaner, clearer, and more uniform. You can do this, but I highly recommend going with an alcohol or lacquer-based stain. Chestnut. Laura. Help please. Cherry. Choose an option below to learn more about how stain colors help … It looks horrible, uneven in the middle of the door and very dark and the edges are light but still not attractive. His floor guys sanded and bleached the maple then did sample consisting of two coats of white stain. Apply stain on the sides, top, and bottom of the faux shelf. Here’s my review of Polyshades: avoid it. In the curls, quilt or figure of the maple there are varying densities in the wood. * GEL STAIN. I work for a premier guitar company and have stained my fair share of maple! Ultimately, this is why I would never deliver a piece of furniture without showing the client a test sample so they can see exactly what they are getting. I am extremely happy with my results, and here’s how I did it. I got a beautiful dinning table made out of knotted line that I tried to stain with Minmax Jacobean. What I would recommend is using shellac as your sealer, instead of a commercial “conditioner”. Even Lee Valley, (and there head offices are in Canada). Frankly, I have no idea why an oil-based varnish would cause the surface to turn a dark color like that. Should I request new doors. Will the wood eventually, after say so many coats start to darken or is that attempt completely futile? It seems that my husband used the common hard white maple and my cabinet man used a soft Pacific Coast Maple. I know I’ll need to do lots of prep work and would appreciate a recommendation for a stripper that I can get a hold of. One of my top favorite stain colors is Minwax Provincial, I’ve used it a lot! If you want to make a piece of maple stand out, you can use either oil or wood stain to finish the wood. Finishing maple can help emphasize the natural wood grain and boost the color of the wood. Hello, how soon after applying the cut shellac should the stain be applied? Let me tell you, my friends, it’s my new favorite stain color! I would really like a durable finish. Thanks. That way you don’t have to buy a bunch of cans of stain you’ll never use. Call Toll Free: 888-598-1450 7 Days a Week 10am - 10pm Eastern Std. What do you recommend? As for whether you should request new doors? It was after this that I asked my “finish guy”. I have a HVLP gun to spray it. Then move up to 150, 180, and then 220. My suggestion would be to hold the contractor responsible until the stairs are up to your standard. Then over top of that we installed beautiful white maple butcherblock countertops. It was a two part clear solution that would chemically react with the wood to make it gray. Actual color, tint, detail and other appearances may vary from what appears on your computer monitor. A crack is sometimes easier since it goes with the grain. The wood is very uneven in color, and I want it to look like natural wood, but with an even color. The gel stain however, went on much more evenly, and I found it to be very forgiving. And although this is know- the system remarked above develops a very acceptable uniform color when staining maple on the job site. i want to be able to see the woods natural grain, but also have the wood the color … Im experimenting with Duraseal products. Now if that stain still isnt dark enough, then you might want to move to a darker gel stain. “Hey Darin. any suggestions on how to achieve this please please help me. Also, be sure to use a blonde shellac since that emparts little to no color at all. We have an old american foursquare with wood floors we would like to refinish hidden beneath the carpet. Hopefully the grain will swell enough to raise the dent. (I have roots in the south so am familiar with white washed and pickled finishes – but have only seen it done on heart pine and cypress wood.) Didn’t realize maple was a problem until we started staining. Can you please help in suggesting what should I do to achieve Jacobean stain look? We don’t want people to notice that there are two different woods in use. If your existing finish is a lighter wood tone similar to or such as Minwax® Wood Finish™ colors, Natural, Golden Oak, Ipswich Pine, Puritan Pine, Golden Pecan, Fruitwood, Driftwood, Early American, Cherry or Pickled Oak, changing color with PolyShades® is quite easy.. Just keep in mind that whichever PolyShades® color … The problem is trying to fill the dings and some “pullout” where the planer gouged too deeply. Also I ordered a maple Fireplace surround and the workers stained it. Thank you, Hi Julia. I hope you can help. I am using the Polyshades stains with the varathane built in. We are remodeling out bathroom and we requested maple for the cabinets. The colours shown are for reference purposes only. Yeah most times when a stain doesn’t take, it comes down to improper preparation or something in the wood itself that doesn’t allow the stain to penetrate. I can not be more direct in saying the success is all in your sanding and preparation . One thing I’ve learned after all these years is a beautiful piece of maple will “stain itself” and a piece with little figure or a “turd”… you can’t polish a turd. Red Chestnut 232, Minwax® Wood Finish™ If one has more scraps and time to experiment, it may be that some dye could be added to the thinned shellac that would enrich the final look when the stain is applied. I am honestly no that familiar with Duraseal products so I cant exactly advise you there. Maple is a difficult wood on which to achieve uniform stain, and the appearance can look as if the stain … NOTE: Due to variances in computer monitors, colors displayed may vary from actual stain colors. I would fill the dent first, sand flush, then hit the surface with your conditioner followed by the stain. His only suggestion is to add a third coat of the white stain but I’m concerned that this will give the floor more of an opaque, painted look without solving the issue. How difficult would it be to sand and refinish the floors to a lighter finish without a stripey look? I would contact a floor coatings expert for something like that. But to answer your question, a simple dye added to the white wash stain will definitely change the overall color. One thing I used to do quite a bit was make my own ‘toner”, using diluted lacquer and either pigment or dye, and sometimes both. All content on The Wood Whisperer is copyrighted, and may not be reprinted in full form without my written consent. I would look into the General Finishes line. The contractor used Minwax, Early American. I’ve only just discovered your site days ago and I am thankful to see a guy speak intelligently on the subject of woodworking and finishing, not just someone breathing in a microphone while trying to think of what he’s going to talk about. By the third time, it looked as if they’d fixed whatever was wrong and the color was beautiful, but the peeling started again not long after the entire job was completed. So if the crack turns out a little bit darker, it tends to look like a natural grain line. You should do a video segment on this (getting maple to an esspresso color). They have been reproduced using digital production techniques. My primary concern is getting dark without blotchiness. then some sanding and recoating, tthen sand again. What I really want to do is apply a stain, dye or solution that I can put in my HVLP and spray the entire cabinet without wiping and giving me an even color. Im well aware of the density of wood and blochiness it could create. Three months ago my brother installed new maple pantry doors with glas in my kitchen. Then I add distilled water. So you still have to sand down far enough to get the color out. You can read about it here: Use this material before the stain and then follow SW’s instructions. So I would suggest removing the current finish, sanding the top down until all traces of the old discoloration are gone, and then follow through with your choice of waterborne finish. I think I am going to give this website to my cabinet guy maybe it will help.. thank you for your time. kindly let me know what perticular conditioner to use as well as the type of stain product to go with. It did not. I mixed this color myself since I couldn’t find the color I wanted which is a dark cherry with a hint of walnut. So many times I will start off with a dye and see where it takes me. I find that little bit of lacquer helps lock down the color. For example, if you take a highly figured piece of curly maple and stain it black with the appropriate dye(note: alcohol, water based, stains and leather dyes, yes, leather dyes) then evenly sand it out, it will take on the appearance of a zebra. Cinnamon, Minwax® Water Based Wood Stain In order to match it up I would need to do a little trial and error testing to see what get us as close as possible. Hello Marci Joy. Maple boards can look beautiful except for that one stinkin’ area where the grain does something funky. Hopefully it can be done without calling in the big floor sanders. It is ideal for staining furniture, cabinets, doors, trim, molding, and hardwood floors. The views and opinions expressed on this blog are purely our own. Maple is very difficult to stain to match, since it doesn't soak up the stain very well Now I'm open to correction by experts, but that sentence sounds incorrect. Depending on what stain I am using, I may need to use a second or even a third application of stain to get the final look. Watched your review on dyes and read several of your posts. How to Apply Alcohol Based Dye on Curly Maple. Monitor appearances and characteristics vary. If I nail it down, maybe I’ll make a video for you. But as you can see, maple definitely has some blotch issues. “Blochiness of coarse” Would you kindly write back to me and give advice on how to go about staining my floors. Paint Calculator. Many times the desired color may not be achieved with just one color. Click on a colour chip for a larger view. Shown on Maple AND Oak View Product Details . I want to use a gel stain which is old master. Minwax Simply White. The problem with Polyshades is that you are adding color and polyurethane at the same time. hm it sounds like they aren’t as bad as we originally thought… definitely worth looking into. Toffee, Minwax® Water Based Wood Stain I want to stain a maple top for a sideboard but now I’m hesitant to start after seeing all of the comments about how difficult it is to stain maple. But I don’t want them really dark – I wanted a medium tone. And what should we use/have used? Ipswich Pine 221, Minwax® Wood Finish™ We chose custom, high-end, poplar EZ Stains Blending System. If I was to now use a polyurethane over the sanded wood wood that match the colours on the rest of the stairs. I like to work with concentrated liquid dyes for several reasons. Almost too many to simply give you a recipe to follow. And although you have no protective film on the wood yet, you DO have the color. In order for a finish like that to work properly, you probably don’t want to apply too many coats. I don’t use these so I can’t make a specific recommendation but those are the keywords that should get you started in your search. :). PLEASE HELP!! First of all, soft maple and red maple are typically the same things. You might ask them though since it can’t hurt. But dye stains come in other forms that may be more suitable, depending on your needs. The Wood Whisperer is proudly sponsored by brands that Marc trusts. Maple and its common stain colours & finishes Maple is definitely one of the most popular and versatile woods, but clearly, all maple stains were not created equal! Please consider mixing multiple colors … I agree with the sage advice that you gave Darin. I don’t like the limelight lol. Oh and keep in mind you might just be able to use a water-based dye to the same end. Please educate your customer showing samples of the system you will use on the floor. A vintage shade, it regains popularity when paired with modern design elements. You may not even have the option depending on the policies of the installer. Hey Melissa. I am refinishing a maple 12 drawer cabinet and its made out of maple. While I love the product and the application process has been fantastic, the color is much closer to black than I anticipated. Brazilian Rosewood, Minwax® Water Based Wood Stain colours made with the Clear Tint Base, Minwax® Water Based Wood Stain July 16, 2012 : Staining Maple a Dark Color Here's a variety of suggestions for getting Maple to take a dark, even stain. It does indeed dry clear but that doesn’t mean it doesn’t bring a color hue with it. Colours. Most “fixes” for something like this just wind up obscuring the grain. Something that dries quickly, doesn’t absorb too deep, and potentially obscures the grain a bit. From Sherwin Williams and half the door ( I just did one side) . Minwax Classic Gray … Follow that up with thorough sanding and you should be good to go. Early Spring, Minwax® Water Based Wood Stain My suggestion would be to sand the whole thing down again and just make sure its sanding properly. Is it doomed to clash and look stupid? What can I do now, after applying that first coat (used sponge brush and wiped it off) to get rid of this blotchy look? There are many things to think about when choosing cabinets! Custom Colors can be achieved by tinting Old Masters Natural Tint Base, or tinting any of the ready-mixed stain colors. Many thanks in advance for your thoughts, A, Well you can certainly add dye to the mixture to change the color. As for gel stains, they work great. The Wood Whisperer, The Wood Whisperer Guild, TWW, and TWW Guild are trademarks of The Wood Whisperer Inc. All rights reserved. This stain added very little color to any of the boards, (maybe slightly lighter … I have never stained maple before and am a bit confused on exactly what steps to follow. Copyright © 2006-2020 The Wood Whisperer Inc. The blotches are significant enough to ruin the entire look. However if you’re doing an outdoors project these products are not ideal due to their weakness to UV rays which will result in fading of the colors. Should I just give it a light sanding and then use a gel stain on top to achieve the darker desired colour? Hi Ginger. The combination took the espresso stain evenly and produced the desired affect, a nice even dark color with some grain showing. Any solid wood product can be sanded down and re-finished. which is a rich mahogany. Not do much on the other. Another stain? thanks! I have a maple staircase I started sanding with 80 grit orbiter sander. Slate, Minwax® Water Based Wood Stain Colouriser. I will try a grain raise DNA and will test without as well), 320 sanding (if needed), gel stain, top coat. I am going to pick up some general finishes java tomorrow (and some schellac) and try that. I’ve tried Cabot Ebony, Minwax Ebony, Miwax Dark Walnut Gel Stain, sanded from all ranges from 120 to 220, sealed with Minwax wood conditioner or just strait to the wood but I cannot just get a nice smooth dark color. The guy who usually get to stain my furniture said that is what he uses on maple because it penetrates better, (and wear gloves as he has the finger stains to verify good penetration!). We intended to stain everything a light gray. Have fun with woodworking. I was going to try to lightly sand the top and then put another coat of the stain on. Golden Oak 210B, Minwax® Wood Finish™ I am not a sophisticated woodworker but I built some cabinets and stained them Rust-oleam “Kona” with excellent results. As evidence of this, the background on my site is actually maple. Do you have another suggestion? Will the General Finishes Gel Stain in Java help me achieve my goal as well or have I royally screwed the pooch here? I like the grain subtle… And that being said, maple is affordable and plentiful in my area. Its really sad to see a grown man cry:-{ Pick a brand you like. I have no experience finishing or refinishing floors, but I have done plenty of pieces of furniture. The key here is to buy a few different materials and then practice on scrap wood. This might be a good question to throw to the folks in the forum: Hi Vince. Once you get the color you want and you are satisfied with the results, then you should be able to do the same thing on the floor. It barely soaked into the oak at all, but looked much darker on the maple. I need it;). See the plot/color help page for more information. Solid color wood stains provide a rich, opaque color that allows the texture of the wood to show. Any finish left in the wood will inhibit absorption of stain, which might very well be what your already seeing when you try to stain. I am building kitchen cabinets using maple plywood and soft maple lumber for the raised panel doors. 2. Harvest Gold, Minwax® Water Based Wood Stain Are we crazy? My preferred way to deal with this is to use Charles Neil’s blotch control. Gel stain, gel stain, gel stain. Would pre-sealing the wood, then apply a single coat of maple gel stain, then sealer and 4 coats of poly (sanding between) be appropriate to get that antique look back? I would also consider no stain at all but would at least like color of the wood to have some “color” other than the white look it has now. There aren’t many stains that produce that chocolatey color but this is one of the best. Colonial Maple. Early American 230, Minwax® Wood Finish™ And yes, if you find the time with your young family I’m sure people would like to see you tackle this particular subject. Would really appreciate it if you can provide some pointers. actually, i went ahead and put an even layer of mahogany danish oil and left the piece over night, and did that for 3 nights and it has reached the desired goal. Minwax® PolyShades® View Wood Stain colour range available & order swatches online for free! The once white countertops are now very random shades ranging from close to white thru orange all the way down to a greenish brown. Hey Kathy. I was thinking that might bring the cabinets to more of rich chocolate color…. I recently embarked on my first flooring sand and refinish job after I tore up some vinyl and found maple underneath in my kitchen. Any product claim, statistic, quote or other representation about a product or service should be verified with the manufacturer, provider or party in question. I have read above about using shellac as a sanding sealer before using gel stain, but I was concerned about the moisture tolerance since it was a bathroom. they are beautiful Maple stained, but we are having issues with the stain flaking off or peeling off.. what is causing this? Samples of maple stains and maple finishes in 22 different Ohio Certified Stain colors. For best results, visit your local Old Masters retailer and refer to our chips or samples. Had I known what a nightmare this was going to be, just beginning woodworking, spending 2000 dollars on tools and wood already for my 10 piece full wall bookcase, I would have spent the extra money on another type of wood. Secondly, like others I have noticed, maple is a pretty non absorbent wood, it will not hold the color when I “remove the excess”. What do you suggest as lacquer? 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